Sent: 08/01/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:I'm seeing something very weird with my machine, so maybe there's
something wrong with it specifically, but I don't see how only being
in a VM could possibly cause this unless it has something to do with
the additions, and even then, I don't think there's anything there
that would do that. The VM doesn't have anything to do with the file
system, it's all up to the OS running in the VM.
--
Bob Comer
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:43:32 -0600, "PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply> wrote:
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>I came across this issue as part of debugging a "server does not start in
>vm" problem. I found out that the server program takes certain commandline
>arguments and would only take short paths. So the program that actually
>makes those command line arguments has code to create short path names.
>
>Now i know for a fact that the same installation works correctly in XP and
>Vista machines. And all those installations go to the C:\Program
>Files\<company name>\<product name with spaces>system\data\.
>
>I dont think it has something to do with XP. I ran the dir /X on an XP
>machine and get this.
>
>01/25/2008 04:06 AM <DIR> INTERN~1 Internet Explorer
>04/01/2008 10:24 AM <DIR> Java
>05/14/2007 09:06 AM <DIR> MESSEN~1 Messenger
>05/21/2007 10:53 AM <DIR> METROW~1 Metrowerks
>05/17/2007 05:01 PM <DIR> MIED60~1 Microsoft ACT
>06/12/2007 02:12 PM <DIR> MI3AA1~1 Microsoft ActiveSync
>
>This seems to work as expected for long file names without spaces.
>
>Priyesh
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> My host XP machine does exactly the same, it must be some difference
>> in XP itself.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:53:25 -0700, Dave Williamson
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm not sure why but I think you are on to something.
>>>
>>>I looked at a "dir /x" on a virtual pc 2007 sp1 machine and directories
>>>that
>>>have long file names have a blank short name.
>>>
>>>Here is an example output where .net 2.0 framework and sql server 2005
>>>express was installed within VPC 2007 SP1:
>>>
>>> Volume in drive C has no label.
>>> Volume Serial Number is 8C31-AA1D
>>>
>>> Directory of C:\PROGRA~1
>>>
>>>07/29/2008 04:35 PM <DIR> .
>>>07/29/2008 04:35 PM <DIR> ..
>>>07/29/2008 04:27 PM <DIR> COMMON~1 Common Files
>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> COMPLU~1 ComPlus Applications
>>>07/29/2008 04:24 PM <DIR> INTERN~1 Internet Explorer
>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MICROS~1 microsoft frontpage
>>>07/29/2008 04:32 PM <DIR> Microsoft SQL Server
>>>07/29/2008 04:30 PM <DIR> Microsoft.NET
>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MOVIEM~1 Movie Maker
>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MSNGAM~1 MSN Gaming Zone
>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> NETMEE~1 NetMeeting
>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> ONLINE~1 Online Services
>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> OUTLOO~1 Outlook Express
>>>11/27/2007 12:28 AM <DIR> Virtual Machine
>>>Additions
>>>11/27/2007 01:08 AM <DIR> 857896~1.TMP Windows Media Connect
>>>09/24/2007 05:30 PM <DIR> WINDOW~2 Windows Media Player
>>>09/24/2007 05:17 PM <DIR> WINDOW~1 Windows NT
>>>09/24/2007 05:17 PM <DIR> xerox
>>> 0 File(s) 0 bytes
>>> 19 Dir(s) 14,074,114,048 bytes free
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"PGP" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP 2 on Virtual PC 2007 (6.0.192)
>>>>
>>>> I am seeing a problem with GetShortPathName API in a VM where it is not
>>>> returning the correct short path name. It seems to quit applying the
>>>> short
>>>> path after the first directory.
>>>> For eg.
>>>> I am doing GetShortPathName on C:\Program Files\Microsoft.NET\Primary
>>>> Interop Assemblies
>>>>
>>>> I get
>>>> C:\PROGRA~1\Microsoft.NET\Primary Interop Assemblies on Virtual PC
>>>> and
>>>> C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1.NET\PRIMAR~1 on the host OS (Vista)
>>>>
>>>> Is there something i am missing?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>> Priyesh
>>>>
>>>>
From: "PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply>
Message:Robert,
Good point there about the additions. I am not sure if anything they do will
cause this issue, but i would like to test this on a VM without additions.
Priyesh
"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
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> I'm seeing something very weird with my machine, so maybe there's
> something wrong with it specifically, but I don't see how only being
> in a VM could possibly cause this unless it has something to do with
> the additions, and even then, I don't think there's anything there
> that would do that. The VM doesn't have anything to do with the file
> system, it's all up to the OS running in the VM.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:43:32 -0600, "PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply> wrote:
>
>>I came across this issue as part of debugging a "server does not start in
>>vm" problem. I found out that the server program takes certain commandline
>>arguments and would only take short paths. So the program that actually
>>makes those command line arguments has code to create short path names.
>>
>>Now i know for a fact that the same installation works correctly in XP and
>>Vista machines. And all those installations go to the C:\Program
>>Files\<company name>\<product name with spaces>system\data\.
>>
>>I dont think it has something to do with XP. I ran the dir /X on an XP
>>machine and get this.
>>
>>01/25/2008 04:06 AM <DIR> INTERN~1 Internet Explorer
>>04/01/2008 10:24 AM <DIR> Java
>>05/14/2007 09:06 AM <DIR> MESSEN~1 Messenger
>>05/21/2007 10:53 AM <DIR> METROW~1 Metrowerks
>>05/17/2007 05:01 PM <DIR> MIED60~1 Microsoft ACT
>>06/12/2007 02:12 PM <DIR> MI3AA1~1 Microsoft ActiveSync
>>
>>This seems to work as expected for long file names without spaces.
>>
>>Priyesh
>>
>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> My host XP machine does exactly the same, it must be some difference
>>> in XP itself.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:53:25 -0700, Dave Williamson
>>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm not sure why but I think you are on to something.
>>>>
>>>>I looked at a "dir /x" on a virtual pc 2007 sp1 machine and directories
>>>>that
>>>>have long file names have a blank short name.
>>>>
>>>>Here is an example output where .net 2.0 framework and sql server 2005
>>>>express was installed within VPC 2007 SP1:
>>>>
>>>> Volume in drive C has no label.
>>>> Volume Serial Number is 8C31-AA1D
>>>>
>>>> Directory of C:\PROGRA~1
>>>>
>>>>07/29/2008 04:35 PM <DIR> .
>>>>07/29/2008 04:35 PM <DIR> ..
>>>>07/29/2008 04:27 PM <DIR> COMMON~1 Common Files
>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> COMPLU~1 ComPlus Applications
>>>>07/29/2008 04:24 PM <DIR> INTERN~1 Internet Explorer
>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MICROS~1 microsoft frontpage
>>>>07/29/2008 04:32 PM <DIR> Microsoft SQL Server
>>>>07/29/2008 04:30 PM <DIR> Microsoft.NET
>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MOVIEM~1 Movie Maker
>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MSNGAM~1 MSN Gaming Zone
>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> NETMEE~1 NetMeeting
>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> ONLINE~1 Online Services
>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> OUTLOO~1 Outlook Express
>>>>11/27/2007 12:28 AM <DIR> Virtual Machine
>>>>Additions
>>>>11/27/2007 01:08 AM <DIR> 857896~1.TMP Windows Media
>>>>Connect
>>>>09/24/2007 05:30 PM <DIR> WINDOW~2 Windows Media Player
>>>>09/24/2007 05:17 PM <DIR> WINDOW~1 Windows NT
>>>>09/24/2007 05:17 PM <DIR> xerox
>>>> 0 File(s) 0 bytes
>>>> 19 Dir(s) 14,074,114,048 bytes free
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"PGP" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP 2 on Virtual PC 2007 (6.0.192)
>>>>>
>>>>> I am seeing a problem with GetShortPathName API in a VM where it is
>>>>> not
>>>>> returning the correct short path name. It seems to quit applying the
>>>>> short
>>>>> path after the first directory.
>>>>> For eg.
>>>>> I am doing GetShortPathName on C:\Program Files\Microsoft.NET\Primary
>>>>> Interop Assemblies
>>>>>
>>>>> I get
>>>>> C:\PROGRA~1\Microsoft.NET\Primary Interop Assemblies on Virtual PC
>>>>> and
>>>>> C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1.NET\PRIMAR~1 on the host OS (Vista)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there something i am missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Priyesh
>>>>>
>>>>>
From: "PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply>
Message:Robert,
It seems that the additions might have something to do with this. I tested
this in a VM without additions and it works as expected.
Wonder what's going on here.
Regards
Priyesh
"PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
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> Robert,
>
> Good point there about the additions. I am not sure if anything they do
> will cause this issue, but i would like to test this on a VM without
> additions.
>
> Priyesh
>
> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> I'm seeing something very weird with my machine, so maybe there's
>> something wrong with it specifically, but I don't see how only being
>> in a VM could possibly cause this unless it has something to do with
>> the additions, and even then, I don't think there's anything there
>> that would do that. The VM doesn't have anything to do with the file
>> system, it's all up to the OS running in the VM.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:43:32 -0600, "PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply> wrote:
>>
>>>I came across this issue as part of debugging a "server does not start in
>>>vm" problem. I found out that the server program takes certain
>>>commandline
>>>arguments and would only take short paths. So the program that actually
>>>makes those command line arguments has code to create short path names.
>>>
>>>Now i know for a fact that the same installation works correctly in XP
>>>and
>>>Vista machines. And all those installations go to the C:\Program
>>>Files\<company name>\<product name with spaces>system\data\.
>>>
>>>I dont think it has something to do with XP. I ran the dir /X on an XP
>>>machine and get this.
>>>
>>>01/25/2008 04:06 AM <DIR> INTERN~1 Internet Explorer
>>>04/01/2008 10:24 AM <DIR> Java
>>>05/14/2007 09:06 AM <DIR> MESSEN~1 Messenger
>>>05/21/2007 10:53 AM <DIR> METROW~1 Metrowerks
>>>05/17/2007 05:01 PM <DIR> MIED60~1 Microsoft ACT
>>>06/12/2007 02:12 PM <DIR> MI3AA1~1 Microsoft ActiveSync
>>>
>>>This seems to work as expected for long file names without spaces.
>>>
>>>Priyesh
>>>
>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> My host XP machine does exactly the same, it must be some difference
>>>> in XP itself.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:53:25 -0700, Dave Williamson
>>>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure why but I think you are on to something.
>>>>>
>>>>>I looked at a "dir /x" on a virtual pc 2007 sp1 machine and directories
>>>>>that
>>>>>have long file names have a blank short name.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here is an example output where .net 2.0 framework and sql server 2005
>>>>>express was installed within VPC 2007 SP1:
>>>>>
>>>>> Volume in drive C has no label.
>>>>> Volume Serial Number is 8C31-AA1D
>>>>>
>>>>> Directory of C:\PROGRA~1
>>>>>
>>>>>07/29/2008 04:35 PM <DIR> .
>>>>>07/29/2008 04:35 PM <DIR> ..
>>>>>07/29/2008 04:27 PM <DIR> COMMON~1 Common Files
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> COMPLU~1 ComPlus
>>>>>Applications
>>>>>07/29/2008 04:24 PM <DIR> INTERN~1 Internet Explorer
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MICROS~1 microsoft frontpage
>>>>>07/29/2008 04:32 PM <DIR> Microsoft SQL
>>>>>Server
>>>>>07/29/2008 04:30 PM <DIR> Microsoft.NET
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MOVIEM~1 Movie Maker
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MSNGAM~1 MSN Gaming Zone
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> NETMEE~1 NetMeeting
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> ONLINE~1 Online Services
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> OUTLOO~1 Outlook Express
>>>>>11/27/2007 12:28 AM <DIR> Virtual Machine
>>>>>Additions
>>>>>11/27/2007 01:08 AM <DIR> 857896~1.TMP Windows Media
>>>>>Connect
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:30 PM <DIR> WINDOW~2 Windows Media
>>>>>Player
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:17 PM <DIR> WINDOW~1 Windows NT
>>>>>09/24/2007 05:17 PM <DIR> xerox
>>>>> 0 File(s) 0 bytes
>>>>> 19 Dir(s) 14,074,114,048 bytes free
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"PGP" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP 2 on Virtual PC 2007 (6.0.192)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am seeing a problem with GetShortPathName API in a VM where it is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> returning the correct short path name. It seems to quit applying the
>>>>>> short
>>>>>> path after the first directory.
>>>>>> For eg.
>>>>>> I am doing GetShortPathName on C:\Program Files\Microsoft.NET\Primary
>>>>>> Interop Assemblies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get
>>>>>> C:\PROGRA~1\Microsoft.NET\Primary Interop Assemblies on Virtual PC
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1.NET\PRIMAR~1 on the host OS (Vista)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there something i am missing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Priyesh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Interesting, I'll pass it along and see what comes up...
--
Bob Comer
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:04:56 -0600, "PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply> wrote:
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>Robert,
>It seems that the additions might have something to do with this. I tested
>this in a VM without additions and it works as expected.
>Wonder what's going on here.
>
>Regards
>Priyesh
>
>"PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Robert,
>>
>> Good point there about the additions. I am not sure if anything they do
>> will cause this issue, but i would like to test this on a VM without
>> additions.
>>
>> Priyesh
>>
>> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> I'm seeing something very weird with my machine, so maybe there's
>>> something wrong with it specifically, but I don't see how only being
>>> in a VM could possibly cause this unless it has something to do with
>>> the additions, and even then, I don't think there's anything there
>>> that would do that. The VM doesn't have anything to do with the file
>>> system, it's all up to the OS running in the VM.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:43:32 -0600, "PGP" <priyesh@do_not_reply> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I came across this issue as part of debugging a "server does not start in
>>>>vm" problem. I found out that the server program takes certain
>>>>commandline
>>>>arguments and would only take short paths. So the program that actually
>>>>makes those command line arguments has code to create short path names.
>>>>
>>>>Now i know for a fact that the same installation works correctly in XP
>>>>and
>>>>Vista machines. And all those installations go to the C:\Program
>>>>Files\<company name>\<product name with spaces>system\data\.
>>>>
>>>>I dont think it has something to do with XP. I ran the dir /X on an XP
>>>>machine and get this.
>>>>
>>>>01/25/2008 04:06 AM <DIR> INTERN~1 Internet Explorer
>>>>04/01/2008 10:24 AM <DIR> Java
>>>>05/14/2007 09:06 AM <DIR> MESSEN~1 Messenger
>>>>05/21/2007 10:53 AM <DIR> METROW~1 Metrowerks
>>>>05/17/2007 05:01 PM <DIR> MIED60~1 Microsoft ACT
>>>>06/12/2007 02:12 PM <DIR> MI3AA1~1 Microsoft ActiveSync
>>>>
>>>>This seems to work as expected for long file names without spaces.
>>>>
>>>>Priyesh
>>>>
>>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> My host XP machine does exactly the same, it must be some difference
>>>>> in XP itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:53:25 -0700, Dave Williamson
>>>>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not sure why but I think you are on to something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I looked at a "dir /x" on a virtual pc 2007 sp1 machine and directories
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>have long file names have a blank short name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is an example output where .net 2.0 framework and sql server 2005
>>>>>>express was installed within VPC 2007 SP1:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Volume in drive C has no label.
>>>>>> Volume Serial Number is 8C31-AA1D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Directory of C:\PROGRA~1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>07/29/2008 04:35 PM <DIR> .
>>>>>>07/29/2008 04:35 PM <DIR> ..
>>>>>>07/29/2008 04:27 PM <DIR> COMMON~1 Common Files
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> COMPLU~1 ComPlus
>>>>>>Applications
>>>>>>07/29/2008 04:24 PM <DIR> INTERN~1 Internet Explorer
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MICROS~1 microsoft frontpage
>>>>>>07/29/2008 04:32 PM <DIR> Microsoft SQL
>>>>>>Server
>>>>>>07/29/2008 04:30 PM <DIR> Microsoft.NET
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MOVIEM~1 Movie Maker
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> MSNGAM~1 MSN Gaming Zone
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> NETMEE~1 NetMeeting
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> ONLINE~1 Online Services
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:16 PM <DIR> OUTLOO~1 Outlook Express
>>>>>>11/27/2007 12:28 AM <DIR> Virtual Machine
>>>>>>Additions
>>>>>>11/27/2007 01:08 AM <DIR> 857896~1.TMP Windows Media
>>>>>>Connect
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:30 PM <DIR> WINDOW~2 Windows Media
>>>>>>Player
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:17 PM <DIR> WINDOW~1 Windows NT
>>>>>>09/24/2007 05:17 PM <DIR> xerox
>>>>>> 0 File(s) 0 bytes
>>>>>> 19 Dir(s) 14,074,114,048 bytes free
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"PGP" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP 2 on Virtual PC 2007 (6.0.192)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am seeing a problem with GetShortPathName API in a VM where it is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> returning the correct short path name. It seems to quit applying the
>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>> path after the first directory.
>>>>>>> For eg.
>>>>>>> I am doing GetShortPathName on C:\Program Files\Microsoft.NET\Primary
>>>>>>> Interop Assemblies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I get
>>>>>>> C:\PROGRA~1\Microsoft.NET\Primary Interop Assemblies on Virtual PC
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1.NET\PRIMAR~1 on the host OS (Vista)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there something i am missing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>> Priyesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
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