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Can"t join Virtual Vista to a Virtual 2008 Domain Server

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 07/16/2008
From: Golden Z
Message:

I am using Virtual PC. Neither of them can ping each other. They both have
connection to the internet. Both can see all the other computers in the real
network.

I want to join this Vista machine to this Virtual 2008 Domain server that I
setup.
Any help would be appreciated.
(email address - cut out)

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Re: Can"t join Virtual Vista to a Virtual 2008 Domain Server

Sent: 07/16/2008
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:45:02 -0700, Golden Z <Golden
(email address - cut out)> wrote:

What are you using for the network settings, Shared Networking (NAT)
or the host's NIC?
Shared networking won't work.

Checked the firewall settings?

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

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>I am using Virtual PC. Neither of them can ping each other. They both have
>connection to the internet. Both can see all the other computers in the real
>network.
>
>I want to join this Vista machine to this Virtual 2008 Domain server that I
>setup.
>Any help would be appreciated.
>(email address - cut out)

Re: Can"t join Virtual Vista to a Virtual 2008 Domain Server

Sent: 07/16/2008
From: Golden Z
Message:

I have done some more testing. The Virtual Vista/XP machines can ping each
other and can ping the HOSTNAME but not the IP address.

The server is not set up as the DHCP server. DHCP is handled by the router.

What do i need to configure in the network settings on the VirtualXP and
Vista machines?

Firewall settings? Iam unsure what to check? The VirtualXP, the
VirtualServer, or the HostPC of the virtual environment.

What are you using for the network settings, Shared Networking (NAT)?
How can i Tell the difference?

These virtualVista and XP are brand new with nothing on them.

"Steve Jain" wrote:

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> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:45:02 -0700, Golden Z <Golden
> (email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >I am using Virtual PC. Neither of them can ping each other. They both have
> >connection to the internet. Both can see all the other computers in the real
> >network.
> >
> >I want to join this Vista machine to this Virtual 2008 Domain server that I
> >setup.
> >Any help would be appreciated.
> >(email address - cut out)
>
> What are you using for the network settings, Shared Networking (NAT)
> or the host's NIC?
> Shared networking won't work.
>
> Checked the firewall settings?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
>

Re: Can"t join Virtual Vista to a Virtual 2008 Domain Server

Sent: 07/16/2008
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:36:04 -0700, Golden Z
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

The first thing I'd do is give your server a static IP address.
Generally, it's not a good idea to have your domain controller using a
dynamic IP.

the default should be the host's NIC, you can check under the Network
settings of each VM.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

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>I have done some more testing. The Virtual Vista/XP machines can ping each
>other and can ping the HOSTNAME but not the IP address.
>
>The server is not set up as the DHCP server. DHCP is handled by the router.
>
>What do i need to configure in the network settings on the VirtualXP and
>Vista machines?
>
>Firewall settings? Iam unsure what to check? The VirtualXP, the
>VirtualServer, or the HostPC of the virtual environment.
>
>What are you using for the network settings, Shared Networking (NAT)?
>How can i Tell the difference?
>
>These virtualVista and XP are brand new with nothing on them.
>

Re: Can"t join Virtual Vista to a Virtual 2008 Domain Server

Sent: 07/17/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:58:11 +1000, "Bill Grant"
<not.available@online> wrote:

And just in case the OP did not get this:
The HOST PC cannot be a member of the domain with the DC a virtual
machine when running LocalOnly...

He talks about virtual machines as XP and Vista but does not mention
the domain controller (virtual or metal?).
In the LocalOnly scenario the domain controller must also be a virtual
machine since the host machine will be unreachable from LocalOnly.

Actually, for testing the HOST should be left out of the equation
entirely so it just acts as a virtual machine host and nothing more.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

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>
>
>"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:36:04 -0700, Golden Z
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>>I have done some more testing. The Virtual Vista/XP machines can ping
>>>each other and can ping the HOSTNAME but not the IP address.
>>>
>>>The server is not set up as the DHCP server. DHCP is handled by the
>>>router.
>>>
>>>What do i need to configure in the network settings on the VirtualXP and
>>>Vista machines?
>>>
>>>Firewall settings? Iam unsure what to check? The VirtualXP, the
>>>VirtualServer, or the HostPC of the virtual environment.
>>>
>>What are you using for the network settings, Shared Networking (NAT)?
>>>How can i Tell the difference?
>>>
>>>These virtualVista and XP are brand new with nothing on them.
>>>
>>
>> The first thing I'd do is give your server a static IP address.
>> Generally, it's not a good idea to have your domain controller using a
>> dynamic IP.
>>
>> the default should be the host's NIC, you can check under the Network
>> settings of each VM.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
> I would have to agree with Steve. The troubles you are having really
>have nothing to do with virtualization, but simply with network design.
>
> If you want to run a domain setup you cannot use DHCP from a router. You
>also cannot use the built-in DNS forwarding. You need to set up your domain
>in its own network with its own IP subnet, with all client machines using
>the local DC for DNS. This applies to both hard metal and virtual machines
>and to physical or virtual networks.
>
> The simplest way to do it with VPC is to put all the virtual machines in
>Local Only. Give the DC a static IP in a new IP subnet. If you want to run
>DHCP, set it up on the DC and enable it in AD. (This will have no affect on
>the other machines in the LAN. It only affects the machine in Local Only).
>Otherwise configure the client machines manually.
>
> When you have your domain running successfully you can give this network
>Internet access by configuring a vm to act as a NAT router between the
>virtual network and the physical network. You configure the local DNS to
>forward to a public DNS service to resolve foreign URLs as well as the local
>domain machines and AD SRV records.
>
> There are really no shortcuts. You need to do it properly if you want
>your domain to work.
>
>

Re: Can"t join Virtual Vista to a Virtual 2008 Domain Server

Sent: 07/17/2008
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:

"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

I would have to agree with Steve. The troubles you are having really
have nothing to do with virtualization, but simply with network design.

If you want to run a domain setup you cannot use DHCP from a router. You
also cannot use the built-in DNS forwarding. You need to set up your domain
in its own network with its own IP subnet, with all client machines using
the local DC for DNS. This applies to both hard metal and virtual machines
and to physical or virtual networks.

The simplest way to do it with VPC is to put all the virtual machines in
Local Only. Give the DC a static IP in a new IP subnet. If you want to run
DHCP, set it up on the DC and enable it in AD. (This will have no affect on
the other machines in the LAN. It only affects the machine in Local Only).
Otherwise configure the client machines manually.

When you have your domain running successfully you can give this network
Internet access by configuring a vm to act as a NAT router between the
virtual network and the physical network. You configure the local DNS to
forward to a public DNS service to resolve foreign URLs as well as the local
domain machines and AD SRV records.

There are really no shortcuts. You need to do it properly if you want
your domain to work.

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> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:36:04 -0700, Golden Z
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>I have done some more testing. The Virtual Vista/XP machines can ping
>>each
>>other and can ping the HOSTNAME but not the IP address.
>>
>>The server is not set up as the DHCP server. DHCP is handled by the
>>router.
>>
>>What do i need to configure in the network settings on the VirtualXP and
>>Vista machines?
>>
>>Firewall settings? Iam unsure what to check? The VirtualXP, the
>>VirtualServer, or the HostPC of the virtual environment.
>>
>>What are you using for the network settings, Shared Networking (NAT)?
>>How can i Tell the difference?
>>
>>These virtualVista and XP are brand new with nothing on them.
>>
>
> The first thing I'd do is give your server a static IP address.
> Generally, it's not a good idea to have your domain controller using a
> dynamic IP.
>
> the default should be the host's NIC, you can check under the Network
> settings of each VM.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

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