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Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting Guest

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: Jon Lorenz
Message:

Issue:
I recently updated Vista x86 to SP1. When shutting down or restarting a
guest OS in Virtual PC 2007, Vista will BSOD with either "A driver is
mismanaging system PTEs" or "NO_MORE_SYSTEM_PTES".

Troubleshooting I've done:
-Uninstalled and reinstalled VPC 2007
-The system has 4GB of RAM and I have set DEP in BIOS to Disable, NX in
BCDedit to AlwaysOff, and PAE in BCDedit to Default and also tried
ForceDisable
-Attempted to create a new guest in VPC
-Attempted to install Virtual Server 2005 SP1, however the setup crashes

Notes:
- Pre SP1 I was attempting to utilize all 4GB of RAM and under BCDedit set
NX for AlwaysOff and PAE to ForceEnable.
- I don't get BSODs at all except for when doing a restart or shut down on a
guest os.
- I haven't reinstalled or updated any drivers to troubleshoot.

System info:
HP 8510p notebook
4GB RAM
ATi HD 2600 256MB
HP preinstalled Vista Business and I later upgraded to Vista Ultimate then
did SP1 some time after

Troubleshooting takes time since Vista take a while to load. I have
considered nuking and installing either Vista x64 or XP Pro x86 from scratch.
The two new features I like in Vista aren't enough to keep me on board and
the lack of software support, especially AdminTools (RSAT) for AD, is making
me leaning towards XP.

At this point I'm open to any ideas.

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Re: Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting G

Sent: 03/10/2008
From: Jon Lorenz
Message:

It's SP1 RTM. BIOS and drivers were updated before SP1 RTM was available. No
updates have been issued since then. I have considered reinstalling the video
driver and will probably do that when the office fires settle.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Show quoted text

> I am running VPC 2007 on Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 (rtm) without any of the
> issues you describe. Have you checked for BIOS and video driver updates?
> Is your SP1 an RC or the final available on TechNet, etc.?
>
>

Re: Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting Guest

Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

I am running VPC 2007 on Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 (rtm) without any of the
issues you describe. Have you checked for BIOS and video driver updates?
Is your SP1 an RC or the final available on TechNet, etc.?

"Jon Lorenz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

> Issue:
> I recently updated Vista x86 to SP1. When shutting down or restarting a
> guest OS in Virtual PC 2007, Vista will BSOD with either "A driver is
> mismanaging system PTEs" or "NO_MORE_SYSTEM_PTES".
>
> Troubleshooting I've done:
> -Uninstalled and reinstalled VPC 2007
> -The system has 4GB of RAM and I have set DEP in BIOS to Disable, NX in
> BCDedit to AlwaysOff, and PAE in BCDedit to Default and also tried
> ForceDisable
> -Attempted to create a new guest in VPC
> -Attempted to install Virtual Server 2005 SP1, however the setup crashes
>
> Notes:
> - Pre SP1 I was attempting to utilize all 4GB of RAM and under BCDedit set
> NX for AlwaysOff and PAE to ForceEnable.
> - I don't get BSODs at all except for when doing a restart or shut down on
> a
> guest os.
> - I haven't reinstalled or updated any drivers to troubleshoot.
>
> System info:
> HP 8510p notebook
> 4GB RAM
> ATi HD 2600 256MB
> HP preinstalled Vista Business and I later upgraded to Vista Ultimate then
> did SP1 some time after
>
> Troubleshooting takes time since Vista take a while to load. I have
> considered nuking and installing either Vista x64 or XP Pro x86 from
> scratch.
> The two new features I like in Vista aren't enough to keep me on board and
> the lack of software support, especially AdminTools (RSAT) for AD, is
> making
> me leaning towards XP.
>
> At this point I'm open to any ideas.

Re: Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting G

Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Are you using any software drivers for any programs like FarStone's Virtual
Drive or VD Pro?

"Jon Lorenz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

> It's SP1 RTM. BIOS and drivers were updated before SP1 RTM was available.
> No
> updates have been issued since then. I have considered reinstalling the
> video
> driver and will probably do that when the office fires settle.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> I am running VPC 2007 on Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 (rtm) without any of the
>> issues you describe. Have you checked for BIOS and video driver updates?
>> Is your SP1 an RC or the final available on TechNet, etc.?
>>
>>

Re: Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting G

Sent: 03/11/2008
From: Jon Lorenz
Message:

I had SlySoft's Virtual CloneDrive installed. Since reading your post, I have
uninstalled it. Unfortunetaly it didn't resolve the issue. I made sure the
Uninstall got rid of the direcotry under Program Files and did a couple of
searches through the registry to make sure it's gone.

Looking through the Device Manager the only thing I would attribute to a
software driver would be related to bluetooth; I'll try and reinstall all the
drivers for bluetooth later this afternoon. No, I am not mapping any COM
ports to a BT COM port.

If anyone has any further thoughts on this, please don't hesitate.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Show quoted text

> Are you using any software drivers for any programs like FarStone's Virtual
> Drive or VD Pro?
>

Re: Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting Guest

Sent: 03/11/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

I had one BSOD on Vista SP1 rtm and it cited vmm.sys. I was opening a vm
with elevated rights. I have just installed VMWare Workstation 6 trial and
it was running at the time. I have tried to induce the error again with
just VPC running and it has not happened.

"Jon Lorenz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

Re: Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting Guest

Sent: 03/11/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Yeah, I thought I remembered something like that. I haven't used VMWare for
a year. Thanks for the comment.

"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

> That's because VMWare Workstation and Virtual PC (or Virtual Server)
> can't both use Hardware virtualization at the same time. (Virtual PC
> and Virtual Server can because they use the same driver)
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:17:30 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>I had one BSOD on Vista SP1 rtm and it cited vmm.sys. I was opening a vm
>>with elevated rights. I have just installed VMWare Workstation 6 trial
>>and
>>it was running at the time. I have tried to induce the error again with
>>just VPC running and it has not happened.
>>
>>"Jon Lorenz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Issue:
>>> I recently updated Vista x86 to SP1. When shutting down or restarting a
>>> guest OS in Virtual PC 2007, Vista will BSOD with either "A driver is
>>> mismanaging system PTEs" or "NO_MORE_SYSTEM_PTES".
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting I've done:
>>> -Uninstalled and reinstalled VPC 2007
>>> -The system has 4GB of RAM and I have set DEP in BIOS to Disable, NX in
>>> BCDedit to AlwaysOff, and PAE in BCDedit to Default and also tried
>>> ForceDisable
>>> -Attempted to create a new guest in VPC
>>> -Attempted to install Virtual Server 2005 SP1, however the setup crashes
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> - Pre SP1 I was attempting to utilize all 4GB of RAM and under BCDedit
>>> set
>>> NX for AlwaysOff and PAE to ForceEnable.
>>> - I don't get BSODs at all except for when doing a restart or shut down
>>> on
>>> a
>>> guest os.
>>> - I haven't reinstalled or updated any drivers to troubleshoot.
>>>
>>> System info:
>>> HP 8510p notebook
>>> 4GB RAM
>>> ATi HD 2600 256MB
>>> HP preinstalled Vista Business and I later upgraded to Vista Ultimate
>>> then
>>> did SP1 some time after
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting takes time since Vista take a while to load. I have
>>> considered nuking and installing either Vista x64 or XP Pro x86 from
>>> scratch.
>>> The two new features I like in Vista aren't enough to keep me on board
>>> and
>>> the lack of software support, especially AdminTools (RSAT) for AD, is
>>> making
>>> me leaning towards XP.
>>>
>>> At this point I'm open to any ideas.

Re: Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting Guest

Sent: 03/11/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

That's because VMWare Workstation and Virtual PC (or Virtual Server)
can't both use Hardware virtualization at the same time. (Virtual PC
and Virtual Server can because they use the same driver)

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:17:30 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>I had one BSOD on Vista SP1 rtm and it cited vmm.sys. I was opening a vm
>with elevated rights. I have just installed VMWare Workstation 6 trial and
>it was running at the time. I have tried to induce the error again with
>just VPC running and it has not happened.
>
>"Jon Lorenz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Issue:
>> I recently updated Vista x86 to SP1. When shutting down or restarting a
>> guest OS in Virtual PC 2007, Vista will BSOD with either "A driver is
>> mismanaging system PTEs" or "NO_MORE_SYSTEM_PTES".
>>
>> Troubleshooting I've done:
>> -Uninstalled and reinstalled VPC 2007
>> -The system has 4GB of RAM and I have set DEP in BIOS to Disable, NX in
>> BCDedit to AlwaysOff, and PAE in BCDedit to Default and also tried
>> ForceDisable
>> -Attempted to create a new guest in VPC
>> -Attempted to install Virtual Server 2005 SP1, however the setup crashes
>>
>> Notes:
>> - Pre SP1 I was attempting to utilize all 4GB of RAM and under BCDedit set
>> NX for AlwaysOff and PAE to ForceEnable.
>> - I don't get BSODs at all except for when doing a restart or shut down on
>> a
>> guest os.
>> - I haven't reinstalled or updated any drivers to troubleshoot.
>>
>> System info:
>> HP 8510p notebook
>> 4GB RAM
>> ATi HD 2600 256MB
>> HP preinstalled Vista Business and I later upgraded to Vista Ultimate then
>> did SP1 some time after
>>
>> Troubleshooting takes time since Vista take a while to load. I have
>> considered nuking and installing either Vista x64 or XP Pro x86 from
>> scratch.
>> The two new features I like in Vista aren't enough to keep me on board and
>> the lack of software support, especially AdminTools (RSAT) for AD, is
>> making
>> me leaning towards XP.
>>
>> At this point I'm open to any ideas.

Re: Post Vista SP1 install BSODs when shutting down or rebooting Guest

Sent: 03/11/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

No Problem, that one has caught me more than once.

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:32:04 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>Yeah, I thought I remembered something like that. I haven't used VMWare for
>a year. Thanks for the comment.
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> That's because VMWare Workstation and Virtual PC (or Virtual Server)
>> can't both use Hardware virtualization at the same time. (Virtual PC
>> and Virtual Server can because they use the same driver)
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:17:30 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>>I had one BSOD on Vista SP1 rtm and it cited vmm.sys. I was opening a vm
>>>with elevated rights. I have just installed VMWare Workstation 6 trial
>>>and
>>>it was running at the time. I have tried to induce the error again with
>>>just VPC running and it has not happened.
>>>
>>>"Jon Lorenz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> Issue:
>>>> I recently updated Vista x86 to SP1. When shutting down or restarting a
>>>> guest OS in Virtual PC 2007, Vista will BSOD with either "A driver is
>>>> mismanaging system PTEs" or "NO_MORE_SYSTEM_PTES".
>>>>
>>>> Troubleshooting I've done:
>>>> -Uninstalled and reinstalled VPC 2007
>>>> -The system has 4GB of RAM and I have set DEP in BIOS to Disable, NX in
>>>> BCDedit to AlwaysOff, and PAE in BCDedit to Default and also tried
>>>> ForceDisable
>>>> -Attempted to create a new guest in VPC
>>>> -Attempted to install Virtual Server 2005 SP1, however the setup crashes
>>>>
>>>> Notes:
>>>> - Pre SP1 I was attempting to utilize all 4GB of RAM and under BCDedit
>>>> set
>>>> NX for AlwaysOff and PAE to ForceEnable.
>>>> - I don't get BSODs at all except for when doing a restart or shut down
>>>> on
>>>> a
>>>> guest os.
>>>> - I haven't reinstalled or updated any drivers to troubleshoot.
>>>>
>>>> System info:
>>>> HP 8510p notebook
>>>> 4GB RAM
>>>> ATi HD 2600 256MB
>>>> HP preinstalled Vista Business and I later upgraded to Vista Ultimate
>>>> then
>>>> did SP1 some time after
>>>>
>>>> Troubleshooting takes time since Vista take a while to load. I have
>>>> considered nuking and installing either Vista x64 or XP Pro x86 from
>>>> scratch.
>>>> The two new features I like in Vista aren't enough to keep me on board
>>>> and
>>>> the lack of software support, especially AdminTools (RSAT) for AD, is
>>>> making
>>>> me leaning towards XP.
>>>>
>>>> At this point I'm open to any ideas.

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