>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>experience.
>B.
>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening window)
>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>last start-up app get loaded
>I am giving up.
>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>A.
>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>B.
>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>
>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>1.
>physical Windows XP:
>------------------------
>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>method B after hard trying:
>- booting Normal failed
>- booting Safe failed
>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening window)
>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>last start-up app get loaded
>2.
>physical Vista
>--------------
>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>crcdisk.sys
>and booting stops.
>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging" option.
>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>
>Conclusion:
>========
>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>
>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>experience.
>Jack
>
>
>
>
>

> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
> using another VM and restore from that.
> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>experience.
>
> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
> XP box to VM more than once.
>
> Back up box with Acronis True Image
> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
> additions, reboot, done.
>
>>B.
>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>
> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
> using another VM and restore from that.
>
>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>> window)
>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>last start-up app get loaded
>
> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>
>>I am giving up.
>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>A.
>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>B.
>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>
>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>1.
>>physical Windows XP:
>>------------------------
>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>method B after hard trying:
>>- booting Normal failed
>>- booting Safe failed
>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>> window)
>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>last start-up app get loaded
>>2.
>>physical Vista
>>--------------
>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>crcdisk.sys
>>and booting stops.
>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>option.
>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>
>>Conclusion:
>>========
>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>
>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>experience.
>>Jack
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>experience.
>
> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
> XP box to VM more than once.
>
> Back up box with Acronis True Image
> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
> additions, reboot, done.
>
>>B.
>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>
> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
> using another VM and restore from that.
>
>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>> window)
>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>last start-up app get loaded
>
> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>
>>I am giving up.
>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>A.
>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>B.
>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>
>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>1.
>>physical Windows XP:
>>------------------------
>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>method B after hard trying:
>>- booting Normal failed
>>- booting Safe failed
>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>> window)
>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>last start-up app get loaded
>>2.
>>physical Vista
>>--------------
>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>crcdisk.sys
>>and booting stops.
>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>option.
>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>
>>Conclusion:
>>========
>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>
>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>experience.
>>Jack
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> One thing more.
> How did you install VM Additions in Safe mode?
> That is impossible on my system.
> The error message is:
> "The Windows Installer Service could not be accessed. This can occur if
> you are running Windows in safe mode or...."
> ???
> Jack
>
> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>experience.
>>
>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>
>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>> additions, reboot, done.
>>
>>>B.
>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>
>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>
>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>> window)
>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>
>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>
>>>I am giving up.
>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>A.
>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>>B.
>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>
>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>1.
>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>------------------------
>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>> window)
>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>2.
>>>physical Vista
>>>--------------
>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>and booting stops.
>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>option.
>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>
>>>Conclusion:
>>>========
>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>
>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>experience.
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

>I wonder if the hardware installed on host can influence porting.
>I have a video capture PCI card and 2 modems installed on host.
>Robert, how did you do that:
>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>> using another VM and restore from that.
>Please elaborate.
>First installed WinXP from CD and created 2 partition during installation.
>Then copied image file to the second partition.
>Then restarted with Acronis bootable disk (iso) and restored image to c:\
>Then restarted with Acronis bootable disk (iso) and restored image to c:\
>RAM allocated to guest 1.2 GB
>VM additions installed.
>XP non-operative.
>I wonder if the hardware installed on host can influence porting.
>I have a video capture PCI card and 2 modems installed on host.
>Robert, how did you do that:
>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>> using another VM and restore from that.
>Please elaborate.
>What I did it was very labourous way.
>First installed WinXP from CD and created 2 partition during installation.
>Then copied image file to the second partition.
>Then restarted with Acronis bootable disk (iso) and restored image to c:\
>
>Jack
>
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>experience.
>>
>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>
>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>> additions, reboot, done.
>>
>>>B.
>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>
>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>
>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>> window)
>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>
>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>
>>>I am giving up.
>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>A.
>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>>B.
>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>
>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>1.
>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>------------------------
>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>> window)
>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>2.
>>>physical Vista
>>>--------------
>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>and booting stops.
>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>option.
>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>
>>>Conclusion:
>>>========
>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>
>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>experience.
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

>One thing more.
>How did you install VM Additions in Safe mode?
>That is impossible on my system.
>The error message is:
>"The Windows Installer Service could not be accessed. This can occur if you
>are running Windows in safe mode or...."
>???
>Jack
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>experience.
>>
>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>
>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>> additions, reboot, done.
>>
>>>B.
>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>
>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>
>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>> window)
>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>
>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>
>>>I am giving up.
>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>A.
>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>>B.
>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>
>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>1.
>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>------------------------
>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>> window)
>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>2.
>>>physical Vista
>>>--------------
>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>and booting stops.
>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>option.
>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>
>>>Conclusion:
>>>========
>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>
>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>experience.
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>experience.
>
> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
> XP box to VM more than once.
>
> Back up box with Acronis True Image
> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
> additions, reboot, done.
>
>>B.
>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>
> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
> using another VM and restore from that.
>
>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>> window)
>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>last start-up app get loaded
>
> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>
>>I am giving up.
>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>A.
>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>B.
>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>
>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>1.
>>physical Windows XP:
>>------------------------
>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>method B after hard trying:
>>- booting Normal failed
>>- booting Safe failed
>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>> window)
>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>last start-up app get loaded
>>2.
>>physical Vista
>>--------------
>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>crcdisk.sys
>>and booting stops.
>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>option.
>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>
>>Conclusion:
>>========
>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>
>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>experience.
>>Jack
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>It was Symantec NAV.
>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving Universe
>Restore.
>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>It was Symantec NAV.
>I have unistalled it from Control Panel (it took about 2 hours to complete
>that task!)
>Now it is normal.
>I am confused about all these options Acronis offers.
>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving Universe
>Restore.
>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>Jack
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>experience.
>>
>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>
>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>> additions, reboot, done.
>>
>>>B.
>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>
>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>
>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>> window)
>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>
>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>
>>>I am giving up.
>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>A.
>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>>B.
>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>
>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>1.
>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>------------------------
>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>> window)
>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>2.
>>>physical Vista
>>>--------------
>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>and booting stops.
>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>option.
>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>
>>>Conclusion:
>>>========
>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>
>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>experience.
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

> >I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>It was Symantec NAV.
>
> Cool, glad to hear it. (That you fixed it, not that Symantec was a
> problem!)
>
>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>Universe
>>Restore.
>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>
> The only difference between safe and full install from what I
> understand is the drivers it tries to load. For instance, on my
> laptop it wont work at all with the full version, but works with no
> problem on the safe version.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:09:28 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>
>>I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>I have unistalled it from Control Panel (it took about 2 hours to complete
>>that task!)
>>Now it is normal.
>>I am confused about all these options Acronis offers.
>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>Universe
>>Restore.
>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>Jack
>>
>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>>experience.
>>>
>>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>>
>>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>>> additions, reboot, done.
>>>
>>>>B.
>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>
>>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>>
>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>> window)
>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>
>>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am giving up.
>>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal
>>>>Restore
>>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>>A.
>>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>>>B.
>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>
>>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>>1.
>>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>>------------------------
>>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>> window)
>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until the
>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>2.
>>>>physical Vista
>>>>--------------
>>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>>and booting stops.
>>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>>option.
>>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>>
>>>>Conclusion:
>>>>========
>>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>>
>>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>>experience.
>>>>Jack
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

>I am giving up.
> After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
> I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal Restore
> and I have tried these 2 methods:
> A.
> Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
> B.
> Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>
> Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
> 1.
> physical Windows XP:
> ------------------------
> method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
> method B after hard trying:
> - booting Normal failed
> - booting Safe failed
> - booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
> window) takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes
> until the last start-up app get loaded
> 2.
> physical Vista
> --------------
> method A and method B both fail the same way.
> There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
> Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
> crcdisk.sys
> and booting stops.
> There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
> option.
> I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
> repaired them but that did not help booting.
>
> Conclusion:
> ========
> Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>
> If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
> succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
> experience.
> Jack
>
>
>
>
>
>

> Now, if I could port Vista....
> I even cannot analyse it, because it refuses to create boot log.
> Jack
>
> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>
>> Cool, glad to hear it. (That you fixed it, not that Symantec was a
>> problem!)
>>
>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>Universe
>>>Restore.
>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>
>> The only difference between safe and full install from what I
>> understand is the drivers it tries to load. For instance, on my
>> laptop it wont work at all with the full version, but works with no
>> problem on the safe version.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:09:28 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>
>>>I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>I have unistalled it from Control Panel (it took about 2 hours to
>>>complete
>>>that task!)
>>>Now it is normal.
>>>I am confused about all these options Acronis offers.
>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>Universe
>>>Restore.
>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>>>experience.
>>>>
>>>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>>>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>>>
>>>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>>>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>>>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>>>> additions, reboot, done.
>>>>
>>>>>B.
>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>
>>>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>>>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>>>
>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>>> window)
>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until
>>>>>the
>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>
>>>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am giving up.
>>>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal
>>>>>Restore
>>>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>>>A.
>>>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount it.
>>>>>B.
>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>
>>>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>>>1.
>>>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>>>------------------------
>>>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>>> window)
>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until
>>>>>the
>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>2.
>>>>>physical Vista
>>>>>--------------
>>>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>>>and booting stops.
>>>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>>>option.
>>>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion:
>>>>>========
>>>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>>>experience.
>>>>>Jack
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>

> Is Vista different in that case? WinXP does not have booting problem.
> Jack
>
> "Jim Kay" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> The problem is almost certainly not Vista but an ATA controller in the
>> original real machine.
>>
>> Actually, I have two open cases on this problem and there is no effective
>> progress on either one.
>>
>> Jim Kay
>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Now, if I could port Vista....
>>> I even cannot analyse it, because it refuses to create boot log.
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> >I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>
>>>> Cool, glad to hear it. (That you fixed it, not that Symantec was a
>>>> problem!)
>>>>
>>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>>Universe
>>>>>Restore.
>>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>
>>>> The only difference between safe and full install from what I
>>>> understand is the drivers it tries to load. For instance, on my
>>>> laptop it wont work at all with the full version, but works with no
>>>> problem on the safe version.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:09:28 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>>I have unistalled it from Control Panel (it took about 2 hours to
>>>>>complete
>>>>>that task!)
>>>>>Now it is normal.
>>>>>I am confused about all these options Acronis offers.
>>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>>Universe
>>>>>Restore.
>>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>>Jack
>>>>>
>>>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and
>>>>>> >you
>>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>>>>>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>>>>>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>>>>>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>>>>>> additions, reboot, done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing
>>>>>> VHD
>>>>>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am giving up.
>>>>>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>>>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal
>>>>>>>Restore
>>>>>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>>>>>A.
>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount
>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>>>>>1.
>>>>>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>>>>>------------------------
>>>>>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>>>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>>>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>>>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>>>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>>2.
>>>>>>>physical Vista
>>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>>>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>>>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>>>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>>>>>and booting stops.
>>>>>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>>>>>option.
>>>>>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Conclusion:
>>>>>>>========
>>>>>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

> The problem is almost certainly not Vista but an ATA controller in the
> original real machine.
>
> Actually, I have two open cases on this problem and there is no effective
> progress on either one.
>
> Jim Kay
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Now, if I could port Vista....
>> I even cannot analyse it, because it refuses to create boot log.
>> Jack
>>
>> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> >I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>
>>> Cool, glad to hear it. (That you fixed it, not that Symantec was a
>>> problem!)
>>>
>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>Universe
>>>>Restore.
>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>
>>> The only difference between safe and full install from what I
>>> understand is the drivers it tries to load. For instance, on my
>>> laptop it wont work at all with the full version, but works with no
>>> problem on the safe version.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:09:28 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>I have unistalled it from Control Panel (it took about 2 hours to
>>>>complete
>>>>that task!)
>>>>Now it is normal.
>>>>I am confused about all these options Acronis offers.
>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>Universe
>>>>Restore.
>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>Jack
>>>>
>>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and
>>>>> >you
>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>>>>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>>>>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>>>>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>>>>> additions, reboot, done.
>>>>>
>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing VHD
>>>>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>
>>>>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the VM?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am giving up.
>>>>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal
>>>>>>Restore
>>>>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>>>>A.
>>>>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>>>>1.
>>>>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>>>>------------------------
>>>>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>2.
>>>>>>physical Vista
>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>>>>and booting stops.
>>>>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>>>>option.
>>>>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas and
>>>>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Conclusion:
>>>>>>========
>>>>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and you
>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share your
>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

> In my case it is the same physical machine!
> I have dual boot and there is the same ATA controller for both!
> So, where should I look in the host?
> Jack
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Vista in a vm would not be an issue. Jim is telling you to look at the
>> host.
>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Is Vista different in that case? WinXP does not have booting problem.
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> "Jim Kay" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> The problem is almost certainly not Vista but an ATA controller in the
>>>> original real machine.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I have two open cases on this problem and there is no
>>>> effective progress on either one.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Kay
>>>>
>>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> Now, if I could port Vista....
>>>>> I even cannot analyse it, because it refuses to create boot log.
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>> >I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool, glad to hear it. (That you fixed it, not that Symantec was a
>>>>>> problem!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>>>>Universe
>>>>>>>Restore.
>>>>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only difference between safe and full install from what I
>>>>>> understand is the drivers it tries to load. For instance, on my
>>>>>> laptop it wont work at all with the full version, but works with no
>>>>>> problem on the safe version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:09:28 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>>>>I have unistalled it from Control Panel (it took about 2 hours to
>>>>>>>complete
>>>>>>>that task!)
>>>>>>>Now it is normal.
>>>>>>>I am confused about all these options Acronis offers.
>>>>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>>>>Universe
>>>>>>>Restore.
>>>>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>>>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and
>>>>>>>> >you
>>>>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share
>>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a
>>>>>>>> physical
>>>>>>>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>>>>>>>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>>>>>>>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>>>>>>>> additions, reboot, done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing
>>>>>>>> VHD
>>>>>>>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action
>>>>>>>>> (opening
>>>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes
>>>>>>>>>until the
>>>>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the
>>>>>>>> VM?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I am giving up.
>>>>>>>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>>>>>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal
>>>>>>>>>Restore
>>>>>>>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>>>>>>>A.
>>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount
>>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>>>>>>>1.
>>>>>>>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>>>>>>>------------------------
>>>>>>>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>>>>>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>>>>>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>>>>>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>>>>>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>>>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action
>>>>>>>>> (opening
>>>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes
>>>>>>>>>until the
>>>>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>>>>2.
>>>>>>>>>physical Vista
>>>>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>>>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>>>>>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup
>>>>>>>>>freezes.
>>>>>>>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>>>>>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>>>>>>>and booting stops.
>>>>>>>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with
>>>>>>>>>logging"
>>>>>>>>>option.
>>>>>>>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Conclusion:
>>>>>>>>>========
>>>>>>>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share
>>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

> It has, if you are porting both physical drives into vm.
> Jack
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Dual booting has nothing to do with Virtual PC. Please explain how you
>> are using VPC.
>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> In my case it is the same physical machine!
>>> I have dual boot and there is the same ATA controller for both!
>>> So, where should I look in the host?
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> Vista in a vm would not be an issue. Jim is telling you to look at the
>>>> host.
>>>>
>>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> Is Vista different in that case? WinXP does not have booting problem.
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim Kay" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>> The problem is almost certainly not Vista but an ATA controller in
>>>>>> the original real machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I have two open cases on this problem and there is no
>>>>>> effective progress on either one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Kay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>>> Now, if I could port Vista....
>>>>>>> I even cannot analyse it, because it refuses to create boot log.
>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>>>> >I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>>>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cool, glad to hear it. (That you fixed it, not that Symantec was a
>>>>>>>> problem!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>>>>>>Universe
>>>>>>>>>Restore.
>>>>>>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>>>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only difference between safe and full install from what I
>>>>>>>> understand is the drivers it tries to load. For instance, on my
>>>>>>>> laptop it wont work at all with the full version, but works with no
>>>>>>>> problem on the safe version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:09:28 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>>>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>>>>>>I have unistalled it from Control Panel (it took about 2 hours to
>>>>>>>>>complete
>>>>>>>>>that task!)
>>>>>>>>>Now it is normal.
>>>>>>>>>I am confused about all these options Acronis offers.
>>>>>>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>>>>>>Universe
>>>>>>>>>Restore.
>>>>>>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>>>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>>>>>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives
>>>>>>>>>> >and you
>>>>>>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share
>>>>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a
>>>>>>>>>> physical
>>>>>>>>>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>>>>>>>>>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>>>>>>>>>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>>>>>>>>>> additions, reboot, done.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an
>>>>>>>>>> existing VHD
>>>>>>>>>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action
>>>>>>>>>>> (opening
>>>>>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>until the
>>>>>>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the
>>>>>>>>>> VM?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I am giving up.
>>>>>>>>>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>>>>>>>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal
>>>>>>>>>>>Restore
>>>>>>>>>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>>>>>>>>>A.
>>>>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and
>>>>>>>>>>>mount it.
>>>>>>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>>>>>>>>>1.
>>>>>>>>>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>>>>>>>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>>>>>>>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>>>>>>>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>>>>>>>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>>>>>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action
>>>>>>>>>>> (opening
>>>>>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>until the
>>>>>>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>>>>>>2.
>>>>>>>>>>>physical Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>>>>>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>>>>>>>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup
>>>>>>>>>>>freezes.
>>>>>>>>>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>>>>>>>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>and booting stops.
>>>>>>>>>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with
>>>>>>>>>>>logging"
>>>>>>>>>>>option.
>>>>>>>>>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few
>>>>>>>>>>>areas and
>>>>>>>>>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Conclusion:
>>>>>>>>>>>========
>>>>>>>>>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives
>>>>>>>>>>>and you
>>>>>>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share
>>>>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Vista in a vm would not be an issue. Jim is telling you to look at the
> host.
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Is Vista different in that case? WinXP does not have booting problem.
>> Jack
>>
>> "Jim Kay" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> The problem is almost certainly not Vista but an ATA controller in the
>>> original real machine.
>>>
>>> Actually, I have two open cases on this problem and there is no
>>> effective progress on either one.
>>>
>>> Jim Kay
>>>
>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> Now, if I could port Vista....
>>>> I even cannot analyse it, because it refuses to create boot log.
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> >I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool, glad to hear it. (That you fixed it, not that Symantec was a
>>>>> problem!)
>>>>>
>>>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>>>Universe
>>>>>>Restore.
>>>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>>
>>>>> The only difference between safe and full install from what I
>>>>> understand is the drivers it tries to load. For instance, on my
>>>>> laptop it wont work at all with the full version, but works with no
>>>>> problem on the safe version.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:09:28 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've found the source of problem why guestXP was soooooo slow.
>>>>>>It was Symantec NAV.
>>>>>>I have unistalled it from Control Panel (it took about 2 hours to
>>>>>>complete
>>>>>>that task!)
>>>>>>Now it is normal.
>>>>>>I am confused about all these options Acronis offers.
>>>>>>On bootable disk (iso) I have at least 2 restore options involving
>>>>>>Universe
>>>>>>Restore.
>>>>>>One is so called 'Safe' and another 'full install'.
>>>>>>I do not have any clue which is for what. (I tried both anyway).
>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>>> >If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and
>>>>>>> >you
>>>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share
>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never tried restoring Vista into a VM, but I've done a physical
>>>>>>> XP box to VM more than once.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back up box with Acronis True Image
>>>>>>> Restore to a VM using True Image with Universal restore
>>>>>>> Boot into safe mode in VM the first time, reboot, install VM
>>>>>>> additions, reboot, done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's basically what I did, but I copied the image to an existing
>>>>>>> VHD
>>>>>>> using another VM and restore from that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Install the VM Additions. How much RAM are you allocating to the
>>>>>>> VM?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:25:53 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am giving up.
>>>>>>>>After 7 days of tweaking I have enough.
>>>>>>>>I used Acronis True Image Echo Workstation with Acronis Universal
>>>>>>>>Restore
>>>>>>>>and I have tried these 2 methods:
>>>>>>>>A.
>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image, convert it to virtual disk and mount
>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>B.
>>>>>>>>Create a physical drive image and restore it directly inside VPC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Host: Windows XP PRO 3 MB RAM
>>>>>>>>1.
>>>>>>>>physical Windows XP:
>>>>>>>>------------------------
>>>>>>>>method A never succeeded. ---> tried 5 times
>>>>>>>>method B after hard trying:
>>>>>>>>- booting Normal failed
>>>>>>>>- booting Safe failed
>>>>>>>>- booting Last working configuration ---> worked?????
>>>>>>>> but virtual machine is not operative. Any Windows action (opening
>>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>>takes 5-7 minutes!!! and booting itself takes about 30 minutes until
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>last start-up app get loaded
>>>>>>>>2.
>>>>>>>>physical Vista
>>>>>>>>--------------
>>>>>>>>method A and method B both fail the same way.
>>>>>>>>There is some hard drive activity at bootup and then bootup freezes.
>>>>>>>>Using Safe mode the last loaded entry is:
>>>>>>>>crcdisk.sys
>>>>>>>>and booting stops.
>>>>>>>>There is not boot log created, despite selecting "boot with logging"
>>>>>>>>option.
>>>>>>>>I used Vista DVD installation disk to repair it. It find few areas
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>repaired them but that did not help booting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Conclusion:
>>>>>>>>========
>>>>>>>>Do not waste your time. It is not worth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you have any experience porting XP or Vista physical drives and
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>succeeded and your vm are working normally I invite you to share
>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>experience.
>>>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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