Sent: 03/07/2008
From: "Frank *Frank P*" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Thanks for the heads-up Colin -- I sometimes get confussed :-)
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>> using the same cd and key that I have on my computer, is this =
>> there a better way? Or do I need to purchase another copy of Windows =
>> just
>> for these purposes?
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>> I am a home user, not a developer, but I want to be able to test
>> applications and settings in a non critical environment where I can =
>> start over if something goes wrong, such as when trying new software =
>> testing shareware for viruses before installing on main computer. =
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Sent: 03/07/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:No prob
"Frank *Frank P*" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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Thanks for the heads-up Colin -- I sometimes get confussed :-)
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Frank P.
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> Not with XP SP2 or earlier. Are you thinking of Vista or XP SP3? You can
> install those without entering the pk.
>
> "Frank *Frank P*" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> NO -- it will count as installing on a second PC
> what you can do is install without putting in the CD Key -- you will 30
> days
> to run it before you are asked to activate.
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> Frank P.
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> "vsi_confirmation" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in
> message news:(email address - cut out)...
>>I currently have XP Pro and want to create a virtual pc XP Pro environemt
>> using the same cd and key that I have on my computer, is this possible?
>> Is
>> there a better way? Or do I need to purchase another copy of Windows XP
>> just
>> for these purposes?
>>
>> I am a home user, not a developer, but I want to be able to test
>> applications and settings in a non critical environment where I can just
>> start over if something goes wrong, such as when trying new software or
>> testing shareware for viruses before installing on main computer. Thanks.
>
Sent: 03/08/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:It is no different in a virtual machine than it is on a physical one.
"David Wilkinson" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> Not with XP SP2 or earlier. Are you thinking of Vista or XP SP3? You
>> can install those without entering the pk.
>>
>> "Frank *Frank P*" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> NO -- it will count as installing on a second PC
>> what you can do is install without putting in the CD Key -- you will 30
>> days to run it before you are asked to activate.
>
> Colin:
>
> But if you do enter the key, do you have to activate immediately? I know
> you don't with an MSDN key (and I believe not activating is an officially
> sanctioned approach).
>
> --
> David Wilkinson
> Visual C++ MVP
Sent: 03/08/2008
From: David Wilkinson <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Colin Barnhorst wrote:
Colin:
But if you do enter the key, do you have to activate immediately? I know you
don't with an MSDN key (and I believe not activating is an officially sanctioned
approach).
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David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP
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> Not with XP SP2 or earlier. Are you thinking of Vista or XP SP3? You
> can install those without entering the pk.
>
> "Frank *Frank P*" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> NO -- it will count as installing on a second PC
> what you can do is install without putting in the CD Key -- you will 30
> days to run it before you are asked to activate.
Sent: 03/08/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:The initial activation grace period is 30 days. Reactivation is three days.
Some versions of Windows can have more than one 30 day grace period.
The command "slmgr -rearm" will work three times to add new 30 day grace
periods in Vista (I never tried it with XP but it many work so try it
sometime).
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> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> It is no different in a virtual machine than it is on a physical one.
>
> Colin:
>
> I know that. I was talking about activating in general.
>
> --
> David Wilkinson
> Visual C++ MVP
Sent: 03/08/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Nope, you have 30 days to activate for XP I think.
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Bob Comer
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:34:17 -0500, David Wilkinson
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>Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> Not with XP SP2 or earlier. Are you thinking of Vista or XP SP3? You
>> can install those without entering the pk.
>>
>> "Frank *Frank P*" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> NO -- it will count as installing on a second PC
>> what you can do is install without putting in the CD Key -- you will 30
>> days to run it before you are asked to activate.
>
>Colin:
>
>But if you do enter the key, do you have to activate immediately? I know you
>don't with an MSDN key (and I believe not activating is an officially sanctioned
>approach).
Sent: 03/08/2008
From: David Wilkinson <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Colin Barnhorst wrote:
Colin:
I know that. I was talking about activating in general.
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> It is no different in a virtual machine than it is on a physical one.
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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I am also interested in running a virtual copy of XP. What is the least
expensive way to get a second license?
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> No.
>
> You need another Windows license.
>
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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Can I buy an old Pentium II system and transfer the license? Look in any
classified ads and you'll see these old systems go for next to nothing.
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> "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>>> You need another Windows license.
>>>
>> I am also interested in running a virtual copy of XP. What is the least
>> expensive way to get a second license?
>
>
> Get an MSDN subscription, and then you can make as many copies as you like
> so long as they are for development, testing or demonstration purposes...
>
> Failing that, eBay...
>
>
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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I just did a quick search on ebay. The cheapest copy of XP Pro was over $80.
I can buy a used Pentium 2 system with a certificate of authenticity on the
case for $10 or less.
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> That makes no sense to me. Just buy a used retail copy of XP and use
> that. Don't buy a used OEM copy and don't try to use a copy that came
> preinstalled on another computer. Those licenses are not transferrable.
> You can use a system builder copy from someplace like NewEgg, but why buy
> a license that can't be transferred to another computer, virtual or real?
> If you have an old Win98 retail license lying around that isn't in use
> anymore, then buy an XP Pro upgrade edition and use the Win98 cd to
> satisfy the shiny media check when you install the XP.
>
> "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>
>>>>> You need another Windows license.
>>>>>
>>>> I am also interested in running a virtual copy of XP. What is the least
>>>> expensive way to get a second license?
>>>
>>>
>>> Get an MSDN subscription, and then you can make as many copies as you
>>> like so long as they are for development, testing or demonstration
>>> purposes...
>>>
>>> Failing that, eBay...
>>>
>>>
>> Can I buy an old Pentium II system and transfer the license? Look in any
>> classified ads and you'll see these old systems go for next to nothing.
>>
>>
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"Alan Larsson" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:47d5addb$0$17331$(email address - cut out)...
Is it true that OEM copies of XP have the letters OEM as part of the key?
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>
> "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>
>> I just did a quick search on ebay. The cheapest copy of XP Pro was over
>> $80. I can buy a used Pentium 2 system with a certificate of authenticity
>> on the case for $10 or less.
>>
>
>
> And odds are that would be an OEM key, that is not valid for a VPC
> install.
>
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:That makes no sense to me. Just buy a used retail copy of XP and use that.
Don't buy a used OEM copy and don't try to use a copy that came preinstalled
on another computer. Those licenses are not transferrable. You can use a
system builder copy from someplace like NewEgg, but why buy a license that
can't be transferred to another computer, virtual or real? If you have an
old Win98 retail license lying around that isn't in use anymore, then buy an
XP Pro upgrade edition and use the Win98 cd to satisfy the shiny media check
when you install the XP.
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> "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>>> You need another Windows license.
>>>>
>>> I am also interested in running a virtual copy of XP. What is the least
>>> expensive way to get a second license?
>>
>>
>> Get an MSDN subscription, and then you can make as many copies as you
>> like so long as they are for development, testing or demonstration
>> purposes...
>>
>> Failing that, eBay...
>>
>>
> Can I buy an old Pentium II system and transfer the license? Look in any
> classified ads and you'll see these old systems go for next to nothing.
>
>
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:No. They did years ago but not for a long time now.
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> "Alan Larsson" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:47d5addb$0$17331$(email address - cut out)...
>>
>> "William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>> I just did a quick search on ebay. The cheapest copy of XP Pro was over
>>> $80. I can buy a used Pentium 2 system with a certificate of
>>> authenticity on the case for $10 or less.
>>>
>>
>>
>> And odds are that would be an OEM key, that is not valid for a VPC
>> install.
>>
> Is it true that OEM copies of XP have the letters OEM as part of the key?
>
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "Alan Larsson" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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And odds are that would be an OEM key, that is not valid for a VPC install.
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> I just did a quick search on ebay. The cheapest copy of XP Pro was over
> $80. I can buy a used Pentium 2 system with a certificate of authenticity
> on the case for $10 or less.
>
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Get an MSDN subscription, and then you can make as many copies as you like
so long as they are for development, testing or demonstration purposes...
Failing that, eBay...
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Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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>> You need another Windows license.
>>
> I am also interested in running a virtual copy of XP. What is the least
> expensive way to get a second license?
Sent: 03/10/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Assuming that they come with retail and not OEM copies of XP, I'd say you
can...
However, I'd say that a copy of XP from eBay will probably be cheaper than a
PC, no matter how old...
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Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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> Can I buy an old Pentium II system and transfer the license? Look in any
> classified ads and you'll see these old systems go for next to nothing.
Sent: 03/11/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"William R. Cousert" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Not for ages...
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Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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>> And odds are that would be an OEM key, that is not valid for a VPC
>> install.
>>
> Is it true that OEM copies of XP have the letters OEM as part of the key?